We had to build this around Eugenes authentic experience.
Ive never had to talk about myself so much in my entire life, he added.
I have phobias and I reveal them [in the show].

‘The Reluctant Traveler’Apple
They are not startling but I have never commented on them to anybody.
It doesnt sound very manly to talk about not being fond of spiders, or whatever.
Brindley said Levy can inspire a generation of people who dont necessarily crave adventure.
